说话练习 Speaking Practice

我今天的讲话 - my talk for today

by 卡梅尔 on November 24, 2012

And here’s the English translation of what I tried to say today. I wrote this after I made the recording, which, except for “一个单词列表 - Yīgè dāncí lièbiǎo”, I ad-libbed the whole thing. Shocking eh!!! Room for improvement you say? Me too … I’m working on it 🙂

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Hello everyone,
today is Saturday, midday, 11:28am.
I think about time (jihu shijian) I made my speech, today’s speech.
Today, I have prepared a list (read this bit!) to help me think of things to say. ha ha but I still can’t speak Chinese! ummm um um, today, this morning, AS USUAL, I walked for 30 minutes. When I got home I watered the yard. Afterwards, I, inside, made a cup of tea, and next to, no in front of sat at my computer, (zuole???) started to study Chinese.
xiang? (first) I listened to a web lesson no. 210. I spent 27 minutes listening until I could understand it.
Then I prepared words that I could use in today’s talk. I wrote a few sentences, … put them onto Lang-8 web site to get my friends there to help me with these sentences.
sigh, 5 minutes, finished, bye bye.

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Just talking to myself! 只对我说汉语!

by 卡梅尔 on November 21, 2012

This is my latest attempt to talk with myself. I think I’m improving, but still a ways to go.
After I finished, I listened to myself and wrote down what I said … mistakes and all. I will learn from my mistakes!!!!!!

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你好,我正在有很好一个注意。我觉得每天都我会说去我的电脑告诉你我今天做了什么。我会measure 时间我可以看了多少间我可以说汉语。
所以,今天我和约翰开车从阿米代尔回家。昨天我们带约翰的电脑去阿米代尔修理。他的电脑以前不太好。今天把约翰的电脑带回家里。现在我们都真希望好了。
已经我说汉语两分钟。我像好不好(wonder)我不可不可以说 another 三个分钟。
哦!已经我说三个分钟,所以现在我必须另一(another)两个分钟。
如果我可以说another两个分钟,我会了说一共五个分钟!
现在。。 是 。。晚上九点四十九分钟。我很累。我想我不会(说)练习汉语(说一)我就对我说汉语 。。。(laja)垃圾汉语!!
已经我会说四半分钟。(四个半种)四分钟半,四分钟半,四分半种 。。。啊。
Now,我觉得我现在应该听到我刚刚说我会,我可能想我说不好。
mm ,, 啊,ah well 五个,五分半分种。再见!

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3 months intensive learning …

by 卡梅尔 on April 16, 2012

Inspired by Benny’s effort to learn Mandarin (to whatever level) in 3 months, I took on the challenge too. After 4 or 5 years of study I still couldn’t talk!!! so I tried very hard over the last 3 months, and now? well, at least I’ve actually been doing it, talking that is, but oh so painfully slow.

For the past 3 months, even though I stayed at home in an isolated area in rural Australia, I have been studying Chinese and practising speaking it most of every day and night.

From Lang-8.com I made a few friends who agreed to help me talk Chinese, and they are all really wonderful people. They all liked the idea that they suddenly became a teacher! One chap said his work mates all laughed at him when he told them, but he didn’t mind at all, and prepared stuff for me just like trained teachers do. He even got his wife and son to help him record things for me to learn. They all worked very hard to help me. In return, they were happy to talk in English when necessary (which was quite often) to give them English speaking practice. Each of these people had slightly different accents, and along with their different teaching methods, I feel like I made great progress over the 3 months.

I kept up a weekly lesson with my teacher Xuni in Xi’an, and towards the end of the 3 months had 3 lessons a week with her. Because she didn’t want to practice her English at all, the time I spent with her always seemed even more valuable.

When my allotted 3 months was running out, and in a desperate measure to learn even quicker, I paid for some more lessons from teachers at http://www.glovico.org/. They were excellent too, and once again I really appreciated their attempts to speak no English at all.

The only problem I found with any of this was the sometimes very poor sound quality due to the slow internet. However, I learnt to treat that as yet another dialect that would force me to listen even more carefully.

Learning intensely like that, especially when you can feel you are making progress, becomes very addictive. It was so hard to call a stop to it all. And I think all my new friends were disappointed too.

And after all that, I’m still not very fluent. There is a lot to be said for being completely immersed in a language. That would be the only way to improve quickly, and I mean really immersed … no talkie English to any one at all … it simply reverses all of your new language learning.

Here is an excerpt from my last lesson with Xuni. I feel the biggest difference between now and 3 months ago is the fact that I am prepared to try and talk about almost anything. But what slows me down is still not knowing sentence structures (I think the structure I use is still English) and lack of vocabulary. I also have difficulty understanding what I hear. Even when I know each word that is said, I can’t always comprehend ordinary talk. Listening to this lesson again, I also lack confidence. I should just chat away and see what comes out …

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Why did I stop I hear you ask? Well, I’m going to France!!!!

But I will be back!

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Hey, 1 whole hour and no talk English!!!

by 卡梅尔 on January 31, 2012

2 things led up to my first lesson:
I’ve been studying A LOT all hols, and I’ve also been following the exploits of Benni in Taiwan.
And yesterday, I had my first lesson of the year, on Skype, with my teacher XuNi from Xi’an.
I didn’t write my usual story before my lesson that I usually read to my teacher … No, this time my preparation was just thinking about things to say. Obviously I tried to practise talking (see, no hear, my previous posts 🙁 ).
I took a bit of advice from Benni .. I made myself just talk! I talked slowly, very slowly and XuNi was both patient and helpful. She was helpful because she asked me questions that made me think of things to say (note to self: write a list of questions.) And of course she corrected my sentences. I was thrilled because I understood her corrections when she said them.
Here is an excerpt from the lesson .. talking about a guest having to stay in a tent in the back yard because our house is too small!

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When can I practise talking Mandarin?

by 卡梅尔 on January 26, 2012

洗碗!!!

Tonight it was when I was washing up!! And it took me 14 minutes and 43 seconds to wash up! It certainly made it a more interesting job, and because my hands were wet I couldn’t turn off the recording which I wanted to do when I couldn’t think of something to say … so here it is. I’ll call it Wash Up Chat No 1. This infers of course that I will record myself (trying to) talk Mandarin when I am washing up … every time! This will certainly force me to get some practice! Once again, I think I can only get better … can’t possibly do any worse!

Before I made this recording, and all day, I was planning and practising to talk about the geography of China and Australia. But I had too many notes to refer to, so it wasn’t authentic chat.

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Now, about the goal I set myself 2 posts back …

by 卡梅尔 on January 21, 2012

Well, I got very close to having a great long things I could say about what I like doing in different weather situations … but circumstances changed!! My friend who I was going to try it out on got sick and went away for a while … and I didn’t get back to THOSE sentences. Well that’s my excuse, I’m sure I would have at least half succeeded, or I would have given it a go … but … I still can’t talk!!!!

I have a new idea to help me. Even though I have friends on the internet, and a friend that I actually talk with once a week, I fear I am not making any progress. I study all the time. My teacher has suggested I practise repeating what I hear on CDs that I have, ie the audio that comes with the text books, and with novels. I have a lot of them, and I didn’t realise I wasn’t doing much of just that!! I was still trying to learn new words, revise old words blah blah blah.

So lately it has been a lot of revision. I’ve been listening to, and repeating audio from both beginner novels, and my old university text books. I have really enjoyed it, and I feel like I am making progress … but still not talking by myself. Not thinking up my own sentences. I can do this when I’m writing, with the aid of my computer, but I want to just talk!

As Benni the Irish polyglot says: well do it!!!

After watching Benni’s first attempt at talking Mandarin, he speaks slowly, very very slowly, thinking carefully of each word or syllable one at a time, and getting it mostly right, I think I can do that!!! He put this video on the web too, which is brilliant! I’ve never seen a beginner trying to speak before (I have done all my study by distance ed or  correspondence lessons!)

I think what Benni has done for me, is point out that I don’t have to wait for someone to talk to before I can get practise. I have often tried to talk to myself, and that doesn’t really help much. But if I talk into a microphone, and put the results on this blog … ahh ha!! Voila! A reason to put what I have learnt into practise as often as I want. I have just tried it, and my talking is really bad, but I know I’m really bad … might as well share it with the world!  🙂 My mind was stuck on a few words I have revised recently, regarding growing plants in pots … I’d forgotten everything else that I have learnt before that!!!

这么多盆花!

这么多盆花!

I thought I would remember enough stuff to talk (albeit slowly) for 10 minutes. Hence my introduction saying I’m going to give myself 10 minutes to talk about my yard. Well, the recording is much shorter than that, I got to the usual mental block and gave up. Ah well, I failed at that goal too 🙁

Next time I will do a bit of proper preparation. I have great things that I can talk about, like washing clothes, mowing the lawn … can’t wait!

Please feel free to post a comment. I know I use a few wrong words, and wrong tones, so it probably won’t mean anything to anyone, not that anyone will come to my blog to listen. Ha ha, that’s why I’m game to make a fool of myself. Gotta luf!

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